We say Scam – PICC HAFC by Dutchman Enterprises
So an email lands in our box from Dennis Lee touting how Ford is so blessed with the opportunity to pursue Dutchman Enterprises products.
We say SCAM, until the company can prove us wrong. They offer a warranty only if the product is installed by a trained installer. Near as we can tell the only installer in the country may not even exist much less a local installer trained to install the kit. This is the same guy advertising with full page ads in Popular Science who obviously did not check for a scam before accepting the materials. At about $1,100 a unit it doesn’t take very many unwitting buyers to come out ahead. Remember you won’t get the warranty unless a trained installer does the work. If there are any installers in Texas please get in touch with us.
Here is the original email.
Subject: Ford Motor Company may be partner with Dutchman Enterprises…
Hello from Dutchman Enterprises. We appreciate your having taken the time at some time in the past to request a quote for a PICC for one or more vehicles(s). We were concerned about EPA issues with the technology originally, but we have re-designed around those considerations and we are no longer concerned about our special catalytic converter qualifying with the EPA. With gas prices rising as they have, other large interests have been looking for solutions to some of their problems and we have discovered a common interest in helping the American car manufacturers get back to doing what they do best… make the kind of vehicles Americans want. The door has opened for us to better serve the American consumers. We have some extremely important news. Ford and Dutchman have been talking and Ford finally gave permission for Dutchman to tell the public what is going on. This last weekend, a Ford executive spent several hours speaking to the dealers involved in distributing the Dutchman Enterprises automotive technologies at their annual dealers convention.
Dutchman Enterprises can now announce that the initial meeting with representatives of Ford Motor Company went very well and both parties are excited about testing the HAFC and PICC and for the potential of improving fuel economy for American automobiles. The initial reaction of the Ford team involved was excitement and enthusiasm over the potential of both the HAFC and the PICC.
Discussions have begun about both companies partnering together to further develop these technologies.
Dutchman Enterprises received a letter from the engineer that is heading up the Ford team to test the HAFC. In that letter from Corporate Headquarters in Dearborn Michigan, the leading engineer wrote, “the (HAFC) concept makes good sense.†There have been critics at large who have challenged the idea of water gas and called it a scam technology, but one has to consider the fact that no one knows more about automobiles and what makes sense relating to them than the engineers who design and build them. This same engineer, in the same letter, wrote, “We are also excited about the potential of the PICC technology.†Ford is discussing getting involved because these technologies make sense.Their testing is supposed to be over on or around October 1st, and the executive that addressed the dealers gave everyone the impression it was going well. They have even asked for more units and that is a good sign.
Mr. Alan Mulally, CEO of Ford Motor Company, was interviewed on CNBC on the 12th of September, and he told the reporter that there are some interesting things happening in the alternative fuels area. He said, “Hydrogen technologies, involving water, offer some incredible opportunities to do something with the engines we already have.†That is not a statement about regular Hydrogen Fuel Cells, which do not operate with current engines. It is reasonable to assume he is talking about water gas injection and the Hydro-Assist Fuel Cells, which his people are currently testing.
Of course, Dutchman Enterprises is excited about the prospects of partnering with Ford Motor Company and their thousands of Ford dealers all across the USA and throughout the world. Not to mention the engineering and research prospects for developing the PICC to it’s full potential. It is not hard to see why Ford would want to be able to get 50% (or even 30%) better mileage out of their existing SUVs and Pickup trucks. It could save the US auto industry to be able to develop the PICC within a year or so to be able to get 100 miles per gallon or better (city and highway) with future SUVs and Pickups. Both of these technologies have world wide patent protection owned by Dutchman Enterprises.
What does this mean to you? It is time to seriously consider getting your HAFC kit on order NOW. The Ford executive mentioned that he thought our prices were too low and that they should be double what we are currently charging. I guess he is right, because we were charging the same price we currently charge for the kit when gas prices were half what they are now. When Ford comes in that will most likely change. The demand will also go through the roof! Just to modify the Ford vehicles will involve 60 million cars. A word to the wise, get your HAFC on order. The PICC will most likely not be on the market for another year or so. Ford will want to develop it with new car designs in mind, while Dutchman Enterprises will absolutely insist on an after market version as well, but that will delay it for well over a year down the road. In the meantime, can there be any doubt now that the concept of the HAFC is sound and can improve fuel economy? You have the benefit of being able to get a little ahead of the curve while the price is half what it will be and while there is not a waiting list as long as the gas lines in the 70s.
As, we are sure, you have already discovered, we have assigned a customer service representative, who works for one of our dealers, to you. If you have any questions about this message, please contact Manager, your customer service representative, using this email address, support@preignitioncc.com. Let our representative do his or her best to answer all your questions and get your HAFC kit in process. One report we recently read made the point that by merely increasing the mileage of vehicles in America by a mere 30% we could eliminate our need for ANY of the middle Eastern oil! Can you imagine what we can do for America and American car manufacturers just by installing the HAFC kits now?
When Ford joins us, we will be able to put a LOT of people back to work and stop this fossil fuels insanity. With their help, our PICC will be all that it can be, and all American car manufacturers can get us all the cars and pickup trucks we want with no concern for fuel costs or pollution. This is the answer we are all looking for. Thank you for your support in this effort.
If you have any questions about this announcment, please contact your customer service representative who is Manager using the his email address, support@preignitioncc.com.
Dedicated to a safe, environmentally sound, and prosperous America,
Dennis Lee
(CEO-Dutchman Enterprises, LLC)
P.S. Please do not respond to this email address because we do not monitor it for incoming email. If you need to contact someone, please contact your customer service rep and/or dealer.
October 11th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
I agree some of the claims sound too good to be true and I can not substantiate anything related to Ford Motor Company but I have seen the kit work and I know of several certified installers.
There was a training in California and a succesful installation on the trainers vehicle. Currently in California it is only experimental because of the emission laws eventhough this system claims to reduce emissions.
I’ve heard there is an installer in Texas and will gladly locate if you contact me.
As far as the company offering a guarantee…yes this is true and the reason they require a certified installer to check an installed unit is because it is not easy to tune. The training I went to was very informative but I do not fee comfortable tuning the system because it is beyond my capability. The company just wants a certified installer to check someone elses work to make sure they have the install and tuning done correctly.
I have seen the positive results and have heard that there are vehicles that get less than desired results but as a whole if it is tuned correctly then many vehicles will benefit.
I’m a believer….. because i’VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES.
October 13th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
If it really works, why don’t they do a proper validation before unbiased people? I have been trying to get them to do this for about a year now – in most cases I get no response – usually when it comes down to arranging for media people to have a look in their area . .. I never hear back from them. If I found an easy way to get a 50% boost, I would be showing everyone.
I have heard from people who have said they paid the money and only got strung along. I’ve heard serious questions raised about invalidated warrenties, cars not holding gains and serious safety issues. Check out my web site and buy it when credible sources openly demonstrate it. For now, be aware of many warning signs here. Eric
October 24th, 2008 at 9:07 am
This should put to rest those ludicrous claims.
Dear Valued Customer,
Please be advised that Ford Motor Company has no relationship with Dutchman Enterprises or with any of Dutchman’s agents, employees or distributors. Ford does not recognize technical merit in the Hydro-Assist Fuel Cell (“HAFC”) or Pre-Ignition Catalytic converter (“PICC systems”.)
Sometimes e-mail communication does not allow us to gain additional information that may be helpful in responding to your inquiry. Should you feel that we have not adequately addressed your questions, please feel free to contact us via telephone at (800)392-3673.
Sincerely,
Jay-R
Customer Relationship Center
Ford Motor Company
October 26th, 2008 at 6:31 am
Hey guys thanks for posting the truth. I am not the only one that asked Ford for verification. From what I know Ford responded in a similar fashion to all that took the time to inquire. If anyone has doubts I would encourage you to simply ask Ford.
Unfortunately it is too late for some as Dutchman fleeced them early in the game, however we can keep others from falling into the scam.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:22 am
hey JRL, in 12 years of following Lee’s absurd free energy claims, I have learned not to underestimate him. He knows how to spin damage control to the faithful. For these people who have put up the hundreds of thousands for the full page ad campaign – it is easier to believe Dennis that big oil convinced Ford to not halve the mileage of their SUV’s than to believe they have lost it all on another Lee financial black hole. When all the HAFC believers have been fully drained of money and energy, he will find new suckers for some even more outrageous claim.
The thing that bugs me is alt energy con men poison people to fringe but real technology that can get us out of the energy mess. The real free energy out there is solar – not crap like over balanced wheels, over unit motors, fuel magnets or magic car conversion kits.
If you google “hafc mileage” – you will see page after page put up by pathetic people hoping to get rich quick selling HAFC – most are fairly immune to reason at this point – they all think the other people have it working.
eric
October 27th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
You should pay the price to either learn of the technology or to have a system properly installed. I have seen with my own two eyes several systems that work. If I can do it why can’t you? Dennis is not hiding anything. Did Henry Ford have difficulties when he first came up with the idea of building a car? Sure he did. At least Dennis Lee is doing something for all of us. I feel sorry for sceptics like yourself. You have to be plain stupid to think that car manufactures, oil companies and the government will provide you with more efficient methods of power. Duh, what planet are we coming from?
November 5th, 2008 at 9:21 am
I’m not convinced about the PICC system but I do know that the hydrogen assist fuel cells do work. You can build one yourself or they are widely available on the internet in kit form. Just google “hydrogen generator”. As far as this company’s claim of having trained installers, that is also true. I met one at an art show. If you live in south Florida, you can contact him at: baypinesauto@knology.net. A friend of mine and I recently installed a unit purchased on ebay on his Mazda 5. He tells me he is getting better milage than before. Before you decide it won’t work, do the research. You will be surprised.
February 14th, 2009 at 6:34 am
The concept is simple but a lot of B.S. is going around. The concept revolves around the idea that you can improve engine combustion by adding highly flammable gas into air / fuel mixture. Better combustion means cleaner emissions, more power, better mpg. The only thing added to this concept is the kind of flammable gas. You can use hydrogen, methane, natural gas …. but in this case you use hydroxy gas. Hydroxy is extracted from water using electrolysis. So the company is selling the electrolyzer. The next issue is tuning which basically tries to answer the question about how to know what is the most efficient combustion for your engine without triggering the a few limits set by the car computer sensors.
February 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Eric Kreig,
This wins in a court of law with real experts and you still don’t stop. You moron, buy the kit and install it. Dummy, all you have to loose is $1K and some time to ether prove your side or Lee’s.
What’s your problem, afraid of the truth or is it you will stop getting the attention? You remind me of a fireman that is an arsonist. Just have to get attention.
There are thousands of people all over the world doing a version of this and it does work.
Grab some wrenches and get some balls and get busy in the garage. Stop giving our money to OPEC.
You can call me anytime as I would love to personally tell you to F*** Off. I don’t hide like you do.
March 4th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
We went to mechanics who attended the week long training class. The idea is fine, the product requires constant adjustment and is simply not ready. That makes it a scam IMHO and is 4 times the price of the DIY units. This is what we are told by honest mechanics. So Robert Jarosak gemride4fun@aol.com or Eric Kreig we invite you to do the same.
We have other resources that confirm our findings. Cheers!
March 7th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
There must be a few Dennis Lee followers acting as shills for HAFC. they post all over the internet, “mine works” – but none is really willing to show open proof. If I had a car getting doubled mileage, I would show it to media people, universitys, the X prize people, car companies – I’d have it on the cover of Time magazine in 2 weeks. you couldn’t shut up real truth and real proof. Dennis Lee cult members would have you believe there are thousands of happy customers, and over 1000 trained mechanics, yet none are willing to come forward and offer the first indpendently verified proof of hafc? I don’t want to buy a kit and lose my money like so many people I have dialogged with – some can’t ge ttheir money back. I have openly offered for a year to pay thosands of dollars for real proof – why no takers?
March 10th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Does anyone know where I can find free online grant applications?
March 11th, 2009 at 4:17 am
This is a reality, not some TV show, why aren’t we using it?